Two of my worlds collide, smashing President Barack Obama out of his egg, which detached him from the mystic narratives built in many American’s minds – “He’s a level-headed academic”. President Barack Obama sat down with legendary stand-up comic Marc Maron, who also happens to be one of the greatest interviewers of all-time, and gave incredibly honest and thoughtful answers.
President Barack Obama and Marc Maron could not be any different in temperament. President Obama comes off as somewhat emotionally disengaged and optimistic, whereas Marc is an anxious narcissist with anger issues. Barack Obama has a wife and two daughters, Marc has never completely settled down and is a proud owner of too many cats. The interview takes place in Marc Maron’s garage, which just so happens to be down the street where President Obama inhabited during his early adulthood.
The interview takes off immediately which highlights Marc Marons uncanny ability to put a guest at ease despite his hyperactive demeanor. They dive deep into macro political issues like healthcare, terrorism, and racism. The interview takes place shortly after the horrific massacre in Charleston, South Carolina. This adds extraordinary context to the interview. The Charleston shooting is the most significant hate crime in the last 50 years. President Obama doesn’t draw the race-card, he doesn’t say that America is broken. He believes that the issue boils down to insecurity and lack of identity rather than an inherent bad nature of human beings. You can really tell he takes a Lockean view of human nature rather than a Hobbesian view of human nature (even though he doesn’t go as far as a lot of Americans; as in he doesn’t fully buy Locke’s theory of property, which in the Earth was put here for humans to use to any benefit). The President actually repeatedly says that race relations are much better than they were 50 years ago.
However, President Obama does not hold back on his frustration over the uniqueness of the mass-shooting problem in the United States. He cites Australia was able to act quickly because the public was so outraged over the one and only mass shooting in their country 25 years ago. President Obama explains how the most disturbed he has been was Congress’s inability to act after the Sandy Hook Massacre. While being firm on what he calls “common-sense gun control reforms”, he understands that hunting is a key part of life for many Americans and often symbolizes or evokes feelings of nostalgia and tradition.
